The link I gave you is not just another version of the Bible, but the Lenningrad Codex, which is the oldest known complete Hebrew Text of the OT.

It is supported by the earliest known copies of the Septuagint and the Qumron scrolls.

That is what I mean by source!

If you go beyond the first few google links, you will find a wealth of real knowledge beyond other people’s blogs.

You have argued against my “Wherewithall” my “personal adgenda” and morality.
But, as these kind of arguments are about ideas. I am waiting for you to disagree with my premise. My premise being that the material you provided as proof is not proof compared to the actual Hebrew text of the Bible.

The only thing I am defending is academic integrity.
Which is why I have asked you some questions that should challenge us to go deeper, and thus discover truth in deeper sense.

When we accept truth at the surface level, that is when we accept truth as per wiki and bloggers.
When we go deeper to discover real truth we go to source material, such as the one I gave you.

You made the comment that “by your understanding…”. It should never stop there. Our own understanding is often flawed.

So we use Cartusian Doubt, in that we doubt our understanding, argue it, research it, then strengthen or change it completely.

I was trying to get you to look at the source, as a way of doing this.
I do not understand why so many Atheists are afraid to do this.
It is the same as Christians who are afraid to read “Origin of Species”.

Also, am I defending slavery? How so?

I also think that answering the question “how do you know your sources are reliable?” might be a good discussion.

However, if things go as they usually do, your probably not willing to answer those questions.

I would like to get to point where you can prove me wrong.
But not many are willing to have those deeper conversations.

But it is in those conversations, and only in those conversations with people with differing agendas that we learn.

You could indeed, go to an apologetics blog etc.

But are you really saying that a source text is inferior to bloggers?

I recently read another blogger who stated that the original text said slave (refering to Exodus 20) but it had been changed to become more acceptable in time.
I gave this person the actual text, which uses the word for maid-servant, rather than the Hebrew Eh-ved which is the specific word for slave.

He deleted it, saying it was BS, then he cited, an atheist blogger who told him that what he said was true. With out ever checking the source.

Go to sources not bloggers. Although these bloggers are correct in many ways. What I am trying to do is to encourage both atheists and believers to stop using secondary sources and actually read what they are talking about.

Not many are willing to do so.

Needless to say, your arguments would fare better on an apologetic site.
http://veritasmizzou.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/slavery-in-the-old-testament/

Also, if you are going to say what scripture says, go to the source. This link is to the Lenningrad Codex. The oldest complete OT Hebrew Text.

http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm

“What is the moral scale you are using, and what is its source?”

Clue is in the title.

“Also, in context, please give me the verses you claim to be a condonation of slavery from the New Testament.”

I was actually referring to the Old Testament, but to my understanding Jesus did not outright condemn it either.

Also, in context, please give me the verses you claim to be a condonation of slavery from the New Testament.

Also, I would encourage you to do a word study on the NT source word for slavery.

Or to study the New Testament Condonation of Genocide.

(I am focusing on the New Testament because your claims address Jesus.)

i believe that homeschooling should only be considered in extreme circumstances. For example, mental disability of the child, children with compromising illnesses, or other unique situations in which the child will not function normally in a public learning environment

please understand, noting my perspective, that in MANY cases (not all) homeschooling severely deprives children of proper social development…

whenever i questioned home schooling as a child, my mother basically lied to me/deceived me into thinking that it was not only no different from traditional, public, schooling, but that public schooling was somehow “evil”. in fact, when i mis-behaved she would often threaten to send me to public school the following year as punishment for my actions. she is very religious… and i am not… but i was trapped. that’s the best way i can put it… what is a child going to do? parents have the authority, and in my case, the ability to lie to and manipulate their children into a false sense of reality

the only reason i am taking the time to post this, is because of the impact it has had on my life… i am now 23 years old… its been 12 years since homeschooling and i’m still feeling the ramifications

God have mercy on you. Read the Bible to obtain wisdom. you need it, bad.

Hint: the word mythology doesnt means something unreal. In greeks means the description of a fact.

PS Sorry for my english, its not my native language, Im greek.

Gen 3:21 – 21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

2. The fact that your God requires a blood sacrifice and finds the aroma of burnt flesh pleasing shows the sadistic nature of your deity and those that follow him. There are plenty of religions that require a blood sacrifice, yet do not find it appleaing.. Your text book, apologetic answer is lacking.

@Matthew

ever smelled burning flesh. with hair and all. Not pleasant.

kid #1: “quick hurry I need something to rage against the machine… like everybody’s doing it and, like, I want to be relevant”.

kid #2: “oh dude, there’s this kony2012 thing. I think its some rapper from africa that’s running for president. He said he’ll give us a bunch of stuff and and rich people eat children… plus their rally t-shirt will look totally awesome with some new jeans I just got for my birthday, brah”.